Review Comment

[CREA2200] Intermediate poetry workshop

January 21, 2011

Fragos, Emily
[CREA2200] Intermediate poetry workshop

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Honestly, I wasn't crazy about her. I was expecting so much more out of a workshop, but I got very little out of it. So little time was spent on each person's work that I just cannot fathom how people even felt like they were improving. I didn't find her particularly interesting or charming and she often struggled to understand very obvious things in a poem. She wasn't a bad workshop leader, just very average.

Workload:

light, a poem a week and comments

January 19, 2010

Fragos, Emily
[CREA2200] Intermediate poetry workshop

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This was definitely a worthwhile class. Professor Fragos did a great job of creating a productive atmosphere for discussion. She's serious enough that she won't let you get away with shitty poems, but light enough that you'll enjoy coming to class, although part of the "enjoy coming to class" part also depends in part on your classmates (my class had a good balance of criticism and positive feedback, but I've heard of other workshops in which that was not the case). Ms. Fragos also occasionally reads poems out loud for the class, which is just wonderful, because she's a great reader. She also knows many contemporary poets and frequently gives anecdotes about them, which is nice.

The only complaint I have about Ms. Fragos is that she tends to focus much more on the language of the poem in the individual lines than on the thought-content of the poem as a whole. Perhaps that's how it should be in an undergraduate intermediate workshop. But it seemed overall that Ms. Fragos (and, accordingly, the class as a whole) was more interested in just making the language of the poem the best it could be, rather than ensuring that the language best expressed the poet's perspective on the idea, topic, event, etc., being discussed. But I guess whether or not that's a good or bad thing depends on some of your beliefs about poetry.

Ms. Fragos gives excellent comments on every poem, although we only got to about half of the poems presented in any given class (each student writes a poem per class). But you got written feedback (from everyone in the class) on the poems that we didn't get to in class, so that was okay.

One quick warning: this class took up more time than I expected. While writing the poem honestly didn't take that long, making thorough comments on my classmates' poems did take a while.

Overall: this was a very good class, and I benefited from both Ms. Fragos' comments and my classmates', which were consistently informed and interesting and usually very helpful.

Workload:

Ten poems, one per week, seven of which are about prescribed themes (a poem about another species, a poem addressing someone or something, a poem that to the poet in the third person, a minimalist poem, etc.), written comments on the poems from each week that weren't covered in class, weekly readings.

March 06, 2009

Fragos, Emily
[CREA2200] Intermediate poetry workshop

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Emily Fragos is a wonderful person to have for workshop. She questions everything that needs to be--she usually asks what the class thinks about the end or a particular word or section before telling what she thinks. she doesn't lecture between poems but if a poem brings up what she thinks about the workings of poetry or writing, she'll sum it up quickly.
she's funny, you'll like her. she's good for you and a really good poet herself.

Workload:

a poem a week, general topics and at least three "open mic" poems, what she calls the poems without a prompt, edits for the final portfolio: choose ten out of the eleven or twelve you write.

Directory Data

Dept/Subj Directory Course Professor Year Semester Time Section
WRIT / CREA WRIT CREA W2201: Intermediate Poetry Workshop Emily Fragos 2010 Fall R / 6:10- 8:00 PM 1
WRIT / CREA WRIT CREA W2201: Intermediate Poetry Workshop Katherine Lederer 2010 Spring M / 4:10- 6:00 PM 1
WRIT / CREA WRIT CREA W2201: Intermediate Poetry Workshop Emily Fragos 2009 Fall R / 6:10- 8:00 PM 1
WRIT / CREA WRIT CREA W2201: Intermediate Poetry Workshop Katy Lederer 2009 Spring R / 4:10- 6:00 PM 1
WRIT / CREA WRIT CREA W2201: Intermediate Poetry Workshop Emily Fragos 2008 Fall R / 6:10- 8:00 PM 1
WRIT / CREA WRIT CREA W2201: Intermediate Poetry Workshop Emily Fragos 2007 Fall R / 6:10- 8:00 PM 1